New TT 33 & DT 33
- Thread starter Endless-Wilso
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- 2,998
- England
- Peasantslayer
I give up... Racfor is just too fast in that first corner, I've been a few hundredths off a few times and even then you need to be almost perfect in the next 5 corners and get a perfect landing on the last corner. I can't remember what my last corner looked like on my new lap but I'm sure I make a mess of it and the one 2 corners before it, anyway good luck everyone. 
By the way if anyone wants to use the cheating method on the first corner you have to turn in and just before you hit the wall turn in sharply and then try to be smooth as you bounce off the wall.
By the way if anyone wants to use the cheating method on the first corner you have to turn in and just before you hit the wall turn in sharply and then try to be smooth as you bounce off the wall.
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- NTGIH
Nice lap. Yeah, those last 2 corners I never could get right. I had you a few times and then lose it on the second to last corner and watch you pull away. O well, that was pretty fun.
4th position is extremely good. Cheers.
4th position is extremely good. Cheers.
- 2,998
- England
- Peasantslayer
I couldn't resist another go I'm joint 2nd and on one lap I was 2 hundredths quicker in the first sector then the same again in the second sector straight after.
Hopefully I wont lose too many places I think doodle and that chan guy might beat me. I'll dupe mine if your quick.
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- QuasarFun1142
Hey guys. This is my first post on here, so I guess I'll introduce myself a little.
Not sure if anyone remembers this game, but, back before there were time trials on GT5, many years ago, back in like 2001-2003 or so, there was this video game called "Motor City Online". At the time, it was the only racing video game I had ever played that had a setup of this type, where there was a publicly visible Top Times leaderboard displaying the top 10 performances, which would get wiped clear at a scheduled interval (once a week in MCO's case, unlike gt5 which has 2 week long windows). In any case, I was a sophomore/junior in high school during that time period of when that game was live (EA eventually shut down the servers in like 2003 or something) and for whatever reason, for about the final year or so of that game being online, I became extremely obsessed with the weekly Time Trials on there.
They had like 20 or so different tracks, but two specific tracks were by far and away the most popular, in terms of how many people attempted the track in the Time Trial format each week (mainly because those two tracks had the best payout structure per your time performance (unlike on GT5, it gave you game-money each time you ran the time trial, and gave more game-money the faster of a time you got (although this still amounted to chump change for the "regulars" who, just like on GT5, were basically just doing it for the sake of trying to outperform each other's times on the leaderboard).
The first time I tried it, I crashed into walls and spun out a bunch of times and ended up in several hundred thousandth place, lol. After a few hours, I finally managed to get a "clean" run with no major crashes, and placed in the top 10,000 or something. By a few days after that I was in the top few hundred. At this point I bought a racing wheel, and took another couple weeks to get into the top 20 or so. Then another week to finish in the top 10. Another week to finish top 3, and finally another couple of weeks before I finally finished 1st overall. I then ended up winning the majority of the subsequent week's time trials on that track until EA pulled the plug on the servers for that game.
Between then and now I basically never played anything similar to that, where there is a public Time Trials board with a top times list visible the way there is on this, and I've always been sad that there wasn't anything similar to that to compete in, since I remember how much fun that game was.
So, this is the first of the GT5 Time Trials I have participated in. I am just using a regular PS3 controller, since the racing wheel I had for that other game was for my PC, since that was a PC game, so, I'd have to get a new wheel to use one on the PS3.
I ended up running a 1:20.1 with a "stock" setup (other than getting the power level up to having my car be 560 pp) on the Audio R8 4.2, but with a couple corners having clear visible sloppiness to where I feel like on a cleaner lap I could've probly done about a 1:19-low or so maybe on the stock (other than power/weight ratio) setup.
Then I found this forum, and saw that Yinato posted his setup (I recognized his name from the leaderboard, and was all like "OH MY GOD!!! HE POSTED HIS SETUP!!! NO WAYYYY!!! WTF OMG MUST GO TRY NOWWWW!!" and basically jumped up and down excitedly like a little girl while mom looked at me weirdly out of the corner of her eye and was like "wtf is wrong with my 25 year old son... what have I done to deserve this..." etc lol
Anyway, so upon trying that setup I quickly shaved off some time in fairly big chunks till I was down to 1:18.9, and then took a little while longer to shave that down to 1:18.499. Then after that I was unable to reach my own time for quite a while after I ran that 1:18.499, which was kind of frustrating, since I was sometimes beating my own ghost by more than a half second in the first sector, so I know I have it in me theoretically to go 1:17.9 at the minimum, based on that alone, but, I've never been able to get 3 great sectors together in the same run, and finally have finished now with a 1:18.439 (which I ran on 04/18/2012 06:08 for a current ranking of 516) earlier this morning. Pretty happy to finish top 1,000 on my first GT5 time trial that I've ever tried, particularly using just the ps3 controller and auto transmission, but still kind of disappointed a little bit if I'm being honest to not have finished in the top 250, which was my goal, since that's the cutoff for having your ps3 name visible on the rankings list, lol.
The only really frustrating thing is that for the past few years, I've barely been able to even play video games in general, especially racing games, cuz I get this weird thing in my right arm where it's like, you know the feeling when you hit your "funnybone" really hard, that icky electric shock feeling you get in your arm? I get that sensation spontaneously (without hitting my funnybone) from just I guess tensing my finger muscles to tight while I play video games, so for the most part I've stopped playing video games ever since that started happening. So, I haven't really been able to do nearly as many attempts at Deep Forest as I would've liked, cuz I had to keep pausing every minute or so between each lap attempt to wiggle my arm and make windmill motions with it to loosen it up to try to keep from getting that funnybone feeling, and then would have to quit playing after about an hour or so usually and not play anymore for the rest of the day any time the funnybone feeling started happening.
Anyways, I had a blast competing at this time trial stuff, and am very glad I found this site. Good luck to those of you in the top 10, and thank you very much Yinato for sharing your setup, that was great!
Nice to meet you guys
Not sure if anyone remembers this game, but, back before there were time trials on GT5, many years ago, back in like 2001-2003 or so, there was this video game called "Motor City Online". At the time, it was the only racing video game I had ever played that had a setup of this type, where there was a publicly visible Top Times leaderboard displaying the top 10 performances, which would get wiped clear at a scheduled interval (once a week in MCO's case, unlike gt5 which has 2 week long windows). In any case, I was a sophomore/junior in high school during that time period of when that game was live (EA eventually shut down the servers in like 2003 or something) and for whatever reason, for about the final year or so of that game being online, I became extremely obsessed with the weekly Time Trials on there.
They had like 20 or so different tracks, but two specific tracks were by far and away the most popular, in terms of how many people attempted the track in the Time Trial format each week (mainly because those two tracks had the best payout structure per your time performance (unlike on GT5, it gave you game-money each time you ran the time trial, and gave more game-money the faster of a time you got (although this still amounted to chump change for the "regulars" who, just like on GT5, were basically just doing it for the sake of trying to outperform each other's times on the leaderboard).
The first time I tried it, I crashed into walls and spun out a bunch of times and ended up in several hundred thousandth place, lol. After a few hours, I finally managed to get a "clean" run with no major crashes, and placed in the top 10,000 or something. By a few days after that I was in the top few hundred. At this point I bought a racing wheel, and took another couple weeks to get into the top 20 or so. Then another week to finish in the top 10. Another week to finish top 3, and finally another couple of weeks before I finally finished 1st overall. I then ended up winning the majority of the subsequent week's time trials on that track until EA pulled the plug on the servers for that game.
Between then and now I basically never played anything similar to that, where there is a public Time Trials board with a top times list visible the way there is on this, and I've always been sad that there wasn't anything similar to that to compete in, since I remember how much fun that game was.
So, this is the first of the GT5 Time Trials I have participated in. I am just using a regular PS3 controller, since the racing wheel I had for that other game was for my PC, since that was a PC game, so, I'd have to get a new wheel to use one on the PS3.
I ended up running a 1:20.1 with a "stock" setup (other than getting the power level up to having my car be 560 pp) on the Audio R8 4.2, but with a couple corners having clear visible sloppiness to where I feel like on a cleaner lap I could've probly done about a 1:19-low or so maybe on the stock (other than power/weight ratio) setup.
Then I found this forum, and saw that Yinato posted his setup (I recognized his name from the leaderboard, and was all like "OH MY GOD!!! HE POSTED HIS SETUP!!! NO WAYYYY!!! WTF OMG MUST GO TRY NOWWWW!!" and basically jumped up and down excitedly like a little girl while mom looked at me weirdly out of the corner of her eye and was like "wtf is wrong with my 25 year old son... what have I done to deserve this..." etc lol
Anyway, so upon trying that setup I quickly shaved off some time in fairly big chunks till I was down to 1:18.9, and then took a little while longer to shave that down to 1:18.499. Then after that I was unable to reach my own time for quite a while after I ran that 1:18.499, which was kind of frustrating, since I was sometimes beating my own ghost by more than a half second in the first sector, so I know I have it in me theoretically to go 1:17.9 at the minimum, based on that alone, but, I've never been able to get 3 great sectors together in the same run, and finally have finished now with a 1:18.439 (which I ran on 04/18/2012 06:08 for a current ranking of 516) earlier this morning. Pretty happy to finish top 1,000 on my first GT5 time trial that I've ever tried, particularly using just the ps3 controller and auto transmission, but still kind of disappointed a little bit if I'm being honest to not have finished in the top 250, which was my goal, since that's the cutoff for having your ps3 name visible on the rankings list, lol.
The only really frustrating thing is that for the past few years, I've barely been able to even play video games in general, especially racing games, cuz I get this weird thing in my right arm where it's like, you know the feeling when you hit your "funnybone" really hard, that icky electric shock feeling you get in your arm? I get that sensation spontaneously (without hitting my funnybone) from just I guess tensing my finger muscles to tight while I play video games, so for the most part I've stopped playing video games ever since that started happening. So, I haven't really been able to do nearly as many attempts at Deep Forest as I would've liked, cuz I had to keep pausing every minute or so between each lap attempt to wiggle my arm and make windmill motions with it to loosen it up to try to keep from getting that funnybone feeling, and then would have to quit playing after about an hour or so usually and not play anymore for the rest of the day any time the funnybone feeling started happening.
Anyways, I had a blast competing at this time trial stuff, and am very glad I found this site. Good luck to those of you in the top 10, and thank you very much Yinato for sharing your setup, that was great!
Nice to meet you guys
- 2,998
- England
- Peasantslayer
Welcome pentaxfun, don't be too disappointed finishing outside the top 256 as you said this is your first TT and perhaps Motor City wasn't as competitive as GT5 is, look where I am on London and I often struggle to get in the top 256, you will find that you have tracks and cars that suit you and in TTs where the fastest car is something rare you will have a better chance of a high finish providing you have that car.
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- SoCal, USA
- cmoraUSGP
I'll dupe mine if your quick.
lol, I've got 3 hours to go! (PST)
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- oshkosh/WI
- MrWilso92
And event's Closed
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- Los Angeles
- QuasarFun1142
Yea, I mean, I know prior to this whole discovering the time trials thing, Deep Forest was more or less my worst track in the game, which I basically never did runs on if I could avoid it, so, I pretty much had to learn the track from scratch for this one. The track I was doing a lot of in practice mode in order to compete against myself to see how fast I could go on with various random cars back before I found the time trials stuff was the "Tsukuba" race track or however its spelled, so, I guess if there's ever a time trials on that track hopefully I'll do better on that one. I remember back in Gran Turismo 3 I got obsessed with the Midfield Raceway or Midway or whatever it was called, and kept trying to see how low I could get my lap time on that track in one of the F1 cars, just competing against my own ghost or whatever, so, I could pretty much do that one blindfolded, but, alas that track doesn't seem to be on GT5
bleh. Oh wells lol.To be honest tho, I'm kinda happy about how it looks like the pick different tracks for each of the time trial thingies and do a wide variety of them, cuz it'll force me to become decent at pretty much all the different tracks after a while and not be such a one dimensional racer overly focused on memorizing the curves of just one single track or whatever the way I used to be.
I wish I could've tried out the London TT this time around, but I noticed that the people in the top 10 list all had cars that I didn't have and wasn't sure how to obtain, so I was just like, eff it, and decided to devote the whole time period to just trying to go as low as I could on Deep Forest instead.
I guess this time around is gonna be even worse off since it looks like the car of choice on both of the new TT tracks is some weird car I've never heard of or seen before in the used dealerships or anything, so I'll probly have to go look up what race I need to win to be able to get them or whatever.
Personally, I actually think I'm gonna end up preferring the ones where it's a car that's easy to obtain from just the New Car dealership or whatever, cuz it's like, it seems like that would make the competition a lot harder, since then everyone has access to it, instead of just the top few guys taking the time to get ahold of the rare car that is best for that TT and the other 200,000 people slumming it up with some inferior car and setup and not being competitive (obv I'm exaggerating, but you know what I mean), cuz the more of a challenege it is, the more fun, but, I guess given how ridiculously stiff the competition seemed to be on Deep Forest, maybe the only scenario in which I'll ever be able to even finish top 256 is gonna end up being one where it's some obscure race car where most of the people don't have it, so that I'm only competing against like 10,000 people that have that car, instead of like, all of GT5's population or whatever lol. Although, the prestige of finishing top 256 would be less for those one's than the tougher TT's I guess, but then I guess in those cases then you can just set the goal as being a top 10 finish instead of top 256 in those scenarios. Which actually I guess would be even more fun/exciting since if you finish top 10 everyone sees your name and gets to watch a replay video of your lap and all that stuff, so of course with that comes all the fame and glory and hot celebrity girlfriends and whatnot that the bigtimers at the top of the list get to experience (okay fine, not really, but still all the infinite video game glory that goes with a top 10 finish is almost as fun as that would be probly lolz).
Anyways, sick finish to the London TT btw, I was following that whole thing with racfor and the wall bump and all that lol, that was insane. Congrats those of you who finished high in that TT.
One thing I kind of wonder about is howcome there seem to be these trends of like, the top people of different TT's having similar names or nationalities or whatever. Like, at one point on the Deep Forest one, like half the top ten list was all people who's names started with "GTPL_" and were all from like the same country, I think it was France or Germany or something. And then on the London one, there were mainly Japanese guys at the top of that leaderboard and none of the Deep Forest guys for the most part seemed to be at the top of that one. What's that all about? I saw someone else on here asked the same thing I think, but I was already wondering about this even before I saw that person's comment on here about it. I assume there's probably some internet forums where large groups of those people who are finishing high on those respective TT's like, train together and share setup advice and fine tuning or something and thus these big clusters of similar named people on the leaderboards or similar nationality dominance on one track but not on the other etc, but not really sure.
Anyways, this game is definitely a lot more fun now that I've discovered the time trials, kind of makes the rest of the game boring by comparison. I'll never understand the people who are like "I just did the time trial 2 or 3 times till I got the gold medal and got the prize money for that and then I never tried it again after that since it doesn't award prize money after that so what's the point after that?" It's like, seriously? They don't comprehend that the whole fun of it is seeing how high up on the rankings you can climb and the competition aspect of it and all that. How do they not get that that's way more fun than just crushing the crappy computer simulation opponents on the regular race events in A-spec over and over again, that's way less fun. I guess different strokes for different folks or whatever, but, I'll never understand people who think that way about it. ::shrugs::
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- Los Angeles
- QuasarFun1142
Lol, it's funny you ask this, cuz I was wondering the same exact thing.
In fact, when I saw that the London TT was dominated by the go karts and the gsx/r concept etc, and I didn't have those vehicles, and I realized I was going to thus just end up only doing the Deep Forest TT and not do the London one cuz of that, what I ended up doing was intentionally doing as slow of a lap as I could, on purpose, like, a 5 minute lap or whatever just driving around it at like 10 miles per hour or whatever, in order to purposely try to get "last place" or as close to it as I could, that way I'd be able to basically see how many total people competed in the London TT by the end of the 2 week's of the event.
So, it ended up being like 150,000th place I think by the end of it. I think it might have been like 160,000 something actually I can't remember, but I can go check right now and give you the exact number place I got for it from my 5 minute lap.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to do this for the Deep Forest TT though, since I was competing in that one and getting 1:18 lap times and whatnot, so I finished like 523rd place or something, but, it doesn't let you see what place you finished afterwards if you do a slow lap once you've already done a fast lap, so, I have no clue how many people ended up doing that one, but I would assume probably even more than the London TT, since the car of choice for the Deep Forest one was easily available right in the New Car Dealership, so, basically everyone was able to compete in the Deep Forest one without much trouble getting ahold of the car that was good for it or whatever, so, if I had to guess I'd think probably like 200,000 people or maybe even more did the Deep Forest one, but, just like you, I am curious to find out just exactly how many really attempted it, so that I could calculate exactly what top percentile I finished in or whatever, relative to the total number of people attempting the event.
edit: Okay, so I just logged on GT5 and checked and this was my result:
So, for London, I actually didn't do a 5 minute lap like I thought, it was actually a 3:33.527 lap, which I guess I figured was slow enough to capture like 99.999% of the total entrants given that that's like 3 and a half times slower than doing it at full speed, so even people who crashed and spun out on like every corner would still be faster than that probly, although I probly should've gone even slower in retrospect just to make sure I got every last entrant to be above me lol. Anyway so that 3:33.527 at London yielded 153,472nd place for me
Also, this is the actual finishing result for the London event, like, I didn't do a fast lap after that or anything, I purposely left it as just being my 3:33.527 lap, and so, since they update your rank as you slip further and further down throughout the timespan of the TT event, that really should be a pretty accurate gauge for how many total entrants there were for London by the end of the 2 week long TT event of it. Hope that helped!
Not sure if anyone did anything like this for Deep Forest, but, if anyone did, I would love to know the end result for the Deep Forest TT!
Btw, you know, I think we could probably get ahold of this data in a more easy/practical manner than just designating some poor soul to have to skip an entire TT event just to do one single intentionally super slow lap and never do any fast laps just to be able to see the total entrants by the end of the TT. I bet that the guys who operate that U.S. GT Archive site or whatever it's called, the one that has the final results of every single time trial that has ever been run on GT5 listed on their site of all the top 256 final finishers of each time trial, I bet you those guys have access to the final total entrants figure for all the time trials probably, or even if they don't, they could probably ask for the data from Polyphony, and I don't see why they wouldn't be allowed to get that, since it's not like it's top secret info or anything. I bet if we all just email the people who run that site we can get them to just update that info into the archival results of all the Finished TT's that they have listed on that site probably, like, up at the top of each of those Final Top 256 lists, they could just add in a little note at the top of each of those lists that says like "Total Entrants by end of Event: 217,894" or whatever it happened to be, for each of the completed time trials they have listed on there.
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