2016 Pirelli Spanish Grand Prix
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- TenEightyOne
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It's pretty much the same word, it's classed as a "loan word" to Dutch but both languages have a very close root, so to speak. That's why if you watch a Dutch TV programme (easier in the East of the country) you'll be able to understand quite a bit of it after a few minutes to adjust your ear.
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- Dennisch
It is exactly the same word. We don't have it on loan. We blatantly stole it. Just like the s word.
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The stewards issued the following ruling:
“The incident concerned started when car 6 [Rosberg] dropped into an incorrect power mode, as set by the driver prior to the start. This created a significant power differential between car 6 and car 44 at the exit of turn three coming onto the straight, resulting in as much as a 17kph speed difference between the two cars on the straight. car 6 moved to the right to defend his position, as is his right under Art 27.7 of the Sporting regulations. Simultaneously Car 44 as the significantly faster car with, at that time, apparent space on the inside, moved to make the pass. Art 27.7 requires the leading driver to leave room, if there is a “significant portion” of the car attempting to pass alongside. Car 44 had a portion of his front wing inside car 6 small fractions of a second prior to car 44 having to leave the right side of the track to avoid an initial collision, which may have led him to believe he had the right to space on the right. Once on the grass on the side of the track car 44 was no longer in control of the situation.”
“Having heard extensively from both drivers and from the team, the stewards determined that car 6 had the right to make the maneuver that he did and that Car 44’s attempt to overtake was reasonable, and that the convergence of events led neither driver to be wholly or predominantly at fault, and therefore take no further action.”
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/15/hamilton-rosberg-stewards/
“The incident concerned started when car 6 [Rosberg] dropped into an incorrect power mode, as set by the driver prior to the start. This created a significant power differential between car 6 and car 44 at the exit of turn three coming onto the straight, resulting in as much as a 17kph speed difference between the two cars on the straight. car 6 moved to the right to defend his position, as is his right under Art 27.7 of the Sporting regulations. Simultaneously Car 44 as the significantly faster car with, at that time, apparent space on the inside, moved to make the pass. Art 27.7 requires the leading driver to leave room, if there is a “significant portion” of the car attempting to pass alongside. Car 44 had a portion of his front wing inside car 6 small fractions of a second prior to car 44 having to leave the right side of the track to avoid an initial collision, which may have led him to believe he had the right to space on the right. Once on the grass on the side of the track car 44 was no longer in control of the situation.”
“Having heard extensively from both drivers and from the team, the stewards determined that car 6 had the right to make the maneuver that he did and that Car 44’s attempt to overtake was reasonable, and that the convergence of events led neither driver to be wholly or predominantly at fault, and therefore take no further action.”
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/15/hamilton-rosberg-stewards/
Seems like a good judgement to me, I can see how they've come to that conclusion. The huge overspeed meant Hamilton caught Rosberg quicker than he'd have expected, without that he'd have had more time to react to the movement that Rosberg was within his rights to make and perhaps would have moved to the outside instead. As it is with the overspeed he had no time, he was already upon the car and had to avoid it.
Of course F1 fans will be F1 fans and continue to place total blame whoever they dislike, though.
Of course F1 fans will be F1 fans and continue to place total blame whoever they dislike, though.
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harsh & not quite. he [Hami] was going inside.. he was screaming down that straight with a full head of steam out of the corner as he hit the apex perfectly. Nico was surprised he came up that fast and probably didn't even know it was him and tried to block and it was ugly. we all know what resulted. two competitive drivers end early in a tussle - i'm not surprised. Congrats to the young Dutchman. incredible racing!
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Sainz escapes with just a reprimand
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sainz-reprimanded-for-pitlane-incident-737131/
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sainz-reprimanded-for-pitlane-incident-737131/
I'm ecstatic and enraged, after that race. Ecstatic that Verstappen won brilliantly on his debut, enraged by the bias of fans both in the Hamilton camp, and the Rosberg camp. Nico was unaware of the speed differential; otherwise he'd not have moved over to defend. And both drivers pre-empting the other, and moving to overtake/defend at the exact same time? What are the chances? Neither of them could have seen that one coming. Those two ingredients together were always going to be a recipe for a freak accident, and that's exactly what came out the oven!
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Watch it back very slowly. Rosberg's harvesting light comes on. Hamilton sees it and moves across to the gap. Rosberg selects the correct engine mode, looks in his mirror at Hamilton and moves across... but too late.
It's a racing incident for sure but Hamilton was too aggressive and Rosberg was just plain clumsy. To my own mind that puts Hamilton (vaaairy) slightly less in the wrong.
They didn't show us that angle on Channel 4!
Does sound like Nico panicked, and Lewis went in with too hot a head.
Whilst a tiny fraction of Hamilton's wing was alongside Rosberg's tyre just before taking evasive action onto the grass, they were clear of each other as they moved.
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That's a curious bit of information. If Rosberg started the race in the wrong power mode, then you would think he would've had a lot more trouble trying to beat Hamilton into Turn 1. I have to look at the race start again but I thought Hamilton got a well enough launch for once. Even accounting for draft, I was a little surprised that Rosberg managed to pull off the pass.
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Rosberg was faster to turn 1 and exit, so the power mode intrigues me 
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Only took them two and a half seasons to take themselves out in turn 1. The stewards sum it up perfectly, Rosberg had the right to move, Hamilton had more speed and it was fair for him to try.
Well done to Max there, and even better by Red Bull. They did to Ferrari again what they did in Abu Dhabi 2010. They threw one cars strategy, and fooled Ferrari into matching it, to gua ranted the best result for the team. In that case it was a Vettel win and championship, and now they helped Verstappen out majorly putting Vettel on an unfavorable strategy.
First race ever, no testing with this team, and he wins. Sure it took a little help but history has been made.
Well done to Max there, and even better by Red Bull. They did to Ferrari again what they did in Abu Dhabi 2010. They threw one cars strategy, and fooled Ferrari into matching it, to gua ranted the best result for the team. In that case it was a Vettel win and championship, and now they helped Verstappen out majorly putting Vettel on an unfavorable strategy.
First race ever, no testing with this team, and he wins. Sure it took a little help but history has been made.
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He switched power modes out of turn 3, but accidentally went too far down, like when you play the Codies 1 games, try to switch from Rich to Standard but accidentally stick it into Lean. Note how everything has been "wrong" mode, not any other word. It'll be common practice to change modes that quickly in the race or Nico wouldn't have done it. It isn't the kind of mistake that should be punished by stewards, but it explains why Lewis had such a good run on Nico when they exited the corner pretty much the same way.
