Not So New - TT & DT No. 30

[playnthru]

IDK because I dont have a 350 PP one, Im guessing it will look worse in terms of power to weight than the 111R on paper. I've tested about 10 different cars which have a better power to weight ratio than the elise at 350 PP and all of them are slower, generally the worse they look in terms of power to weight the quicker they are at the same PP.

As I stated.. To get a GSX/R-4 to 350pp, it must be old.. HP loss has to happen. A stock GSX/R-4, will not get to 350pp.

My lowest HP/stock(160)? GSX/R-4, fully De-tuned and limited is 353pp..

If you have a stock one,drive it until it looses HP.. Then it can maybe make 350pp..

Just trying to help..👍

 

[Peasantslayer]

As I stated.. To get a GSX/R-4 to 350pp, it must be old.. HP loss has to happen. A stock GSX/R-4, will not get to 350pp.

My lowest HP/stock(160)? GSX/R-4, fully De-tuned and limited is 353pp..

If you have a stock one,drive it until it looses HP.. Then it can maybe make 350pp..

Just trying to help..👍

Yeh I know I tried Ronald's stock version, one of the people at the top is at 350 PP with a wing. :s

 

[ugabugaz]

Had a blissful run on Eiger going .183 faster than my best and I managed to stuff it into the wall at the last corner..So frustrating. Would have dropped to #32 but noo, I had to screw up.

Still holding #1 in the US but the cavalry is closing in fast.


Edit: Down to 1:04.391 or #27 in the Rankings - Woooo!

 

[ryanerb]

Im liking Eiger the more I keep doing it but that 2nd corner (the SHARP left) is killing me. I know I am loosing 1 second on the exit of that corner...

Ugh... Im at right now a 1:06.571 right now... I cant get it down any lower. I am consistently in the low 1:07s

Getting there but like I said, that 2nd corner is killing me! Im also sketchy on that last downhill corner to the left after the chain of switchbacks (right before the time catcher)

Edit: Down to 1:04.391 or #27 in the Rankings - Woooo!

I have always wanted to hit that high up the leaderboards... maybe some day.... Great time!

 

[ugabugaz]

Im liking Eiger the more I keep doing it but that 2nd corner (the SHARP left) is killing me. I know I am loosing 1 second on the exit of that corner...

Ugh... Im at right now a 1:06.571 right now... I cant get it down any lower. I am consistently in the low 1:07s

Getting there but like I said, that 2nd corner is killing me! Im also sketchy on that last downhill corner to the left after the chain of switchbacks (right before the time catcher)



I have always wanted to hit that high up the leaderboards... maybe some day.... Great time!

The last downhill corner can make or break your laptime..I would suggest watching one of the top people's laps and just seeing what they do. For the first section you pretty much want to nail the gas as soon as possible, so that means very little skidding especially for the last two corners of the downhill section.

Also are you using the Lancer? If No, Use it. If Yes, Use Gerchu's tune for it. I have made some modifications on the tune he provided and these are..

Springs: 14.5/6.0
Dampers 9,5 and 9,5
Torque Split: 45/55

 

[ryanerb]

The last downhill corner can make or break your laptime..I would suggest watching one of the top people's laps and just seeing what they do. For the first section you pretty much want to nail the gas as soon as possible, so that means very little skidding especially for the last two corners of the downhill section.

Also are you using the Lancer? If No, Use it. If Yes, Use Gerchu's tune for it. I have made some modifications on the tune he provided and these are..

Springs: 14.5/6.0
Dampers 9,5 and 9,5
Torque Split: 45/55

I spent many hours setting my tune where I have it now and that last downhill is the only one I am loosing major time on. Im actually using the Lancer and racing with the #1s ghost. I hold him all the way up (for the most part) to that last downhill left. That right after the straight (the sweeping right into the tunnel) I am actually MUCH faster than him and get back a few tenths but its not enough to help between the loss I take on the 2nd turn that is a left and that last downhill left

Its not my tune at all thats hurting me... It more less my experience on this track. I know I am just using the car wrong.

 

[Peasantslayer]

I found the evo super rally car 03 in the UCD if anyone wants it for the eiger TT.

BTW I cant send you a PM Ronald657 because your inbox is full, thanks ill give you something in return.

 

[ugabugaz]

I spent many hours setting my tune where I have it now and that last downhill is the only one I am loosing major time on. Im actually using the Lancer and racing with the #1s ghost. I hold him all the way up (for the most part) to that last downhill left. That right after the straight (the sweeping right into the tunnel) I am actually MUCH faster than him and get back a few tenths but its not enough to help between the loss I take on the 2nd turn that is a left and that last downhill left

Its not my tune at all thats hurting me... It more less my experience on this track. I know I am just using the car wrong.

I'm a little confused as to which corners exactly screw you up..So use the helpful map below and tell me the numbers - Then I can give you some tips on how to take them, or at least how I take them.

 

[ryanerb]

2 and 4... chewing up my time. I loose 1 second on turn 2, and another on 4... (not counting tenths i loose along the way, nor am I to concerned about those), Turn 5 I regain a 10th or 2 and by 6 I am about 2.5 seconds behind... (depending on my runs)

Where I am now I would LOVE just to take 1 more second off... I am usually in the top 1800-3200 in the world... and at this second I am 1388. So I am happy there but by the time this ends I will be around 2200... I wanna see what I can really do for once.

 

[Botox]

hi guys, as promised my setup:

Suspension
10/-25
15.0/15.0
10/10
10/10
7/7
2.0/1.5
-0.10/-0.13

Differential
8
12
9

200kg @ +12
Wing 17
Engine50%

Break
2/8

Transmission
1) 3.569
2) 2.646
3) 2.055
4) 1.665
5) 1.506
6) 1.369
final 4.120 max speed 180

Sure it is a very extrem setup, but it seems to work.

By the way, nice drive lester, i was chasing your ghost this morning, but i couldn't get a legal time

regards

Flow

Thanks for sharing man.. I am back under 200 with the trans and suspension. tried with the wing for awhile but it didn't seem to have the power.

wing off and lsd accel changed to 5

 

[ugabugaz]

2 and 4... chewing up my time. I loose 1 second on turn 2, and another on 4... (not counting tenths i loose along the way, nor am I to concerned about those), Turn 5 I regain a 10th or 2 and by 6 I am about 2.5 seconds behind... (depending on my runs)

Where I am now I would LOVE just to take 1 more second off... I am usually in the top 1800-3200 in the world... and at this second I am 1388. So I am happy there but by the time this ends I will be around 2200... I wanna see what I can really do for once.

For corner two you want to go as close to the inside as possible, even hit the dirt part. You want to rotate the car as soon as possible so a rear biased brake balance is a must (Don't be afraid to use a dab of brakes to help you rotate). After you rotate, hit the gas as soon as possible and exit the corner. Once you hit the gas, don't lift. If you lift, you didn't enter the corner correctly.

Corner four, the important bit is NOT to let the car slide. Really you should let the car rotate into the turn, partial throttle and when you're exiting floor it. If you see the car skidding and sliding, it means you did it wrong.


Corner Six..Watch either Yinato's or Eclipsee's lap. I can't really tell you how to do it, it's just easier to watch. What I'll tell you is this..Mid corner you shouldn't drop below 102-104 MPH (On my run my lowest speed through 6 was 104 MPH)

 

[ivann]

I must say, 350pp TT is to easy. I took Honda Insight (148hp / 1700kg) without any aids and drove 2sec faster than gold. I really think thats too easy...

 

[ryanerb]

Here is the rough story how I get around and what happens. I hit the start/finish, drop to 5th. Floor it to turn 1 (I am behind the ghost leader but on his bumper)... I kinda finesse the gas (Im on a DS3 and play DPad and buttons) exiting turn 1 about the middle of the track (exactly like the ghost). I enter turn 2 and just cant hit the dirt and do that twist (yes I am rear brake biased).

I race down the hill and by now there is a descent gap between me and the ghost. I follow through 3. I feel I am coming through 3 a bit wide because then going into 4 I am a bit to inside (sometimes I slide, sometimes I dont). Regardless I pass the Split timer between 1.5 seconds behind to 1.8 seconds behind.

I enter turn 5. I am clean with this sweeping, out - in - out with only a downshift mid corner when I hit the bottom of my powerband blasting me back up the hill into the tunnel. I exit the tunnel at the next split between 2.1 - 2.4 seconds behind. I lay off the throttle and DONT brake going into turn 6 and when I hit the dirt to just before I hit it on the inside I hit the throttle again holding it all the way to the final corner.

I dont know if that helps describe what I am doing... I know what I am doing wrong, I see it in the ghost... I just cant get the grip needed to do it.

 

[ugabugaz]

Here is the rough story how I get around and what happens. I hit the start/finish, drop to 5th. Floor it to turn 1 (I am behind the ghost leader but on his bumper)... I kinda finesse the gas (Im on a DS3 and play DPad and buttons) exiting turn 1 about the middle of the track (exactly like the ghost). I enter turn 2 and just cant hit the dirt and do that twist (yes I am rear brake biased).

I race down the hill and by now there is a descent gap between me and the ghost. I follow through 3. I feel I am coming through 3 a bit wide because then going into 4 I am a bit to inside (sometimes I slide, sometimes I dont). Regardless I pass the Split timer between 1.5 seconds behind to 1.8 seconds behind.

I enter turn 5. I am clean with this sweeping, out - in - out with only a downshift mid corner when I hit the bottom of my powerband blasting me back up the hill into the tunnel. I exit the tunnel at the next split between 2.1 - 2.4 seconds behind. I lay off the throttle and DONT brake going into turn 6 and when I hit the dirt to just before I hit it on the inside I hit the throttle again holding it all the way to the final corner.

I dont know if that helps describe what I am doing... I know what I am doing wrong, I see it in the ghost... I just cant get the grip needed to do it.

For the first, just practice and perhaps increase the rear brake bias..I run with 3-5 I believe..Double check what Gerchu put.

Corner Six entry is tricky. You need to turn at a precise moment otherwise you'll either hit dirt or go too far wide. As you're turning you let go of the gas and once you're turned go back on it. As I said you shouldn't fall bellow 102-104 MPH. I used to have the grip problem too..It's really all in the entry and throttle.

I can take a video of my run, if that would help you. Other than that, not much I can do.
Also I use an Automatic, So I can't help you gear-wise.

 

[ryanerb]

For the first, just practice and perhaps increase the rear brake bias..I run with 3-5 I believe..Double check what Gerchu put.

Corner Six entry is tricky. You need to turn at a precise moment otherwise you'll either hit dirt or go too far wide. As you're turning you let go of the gas and once you're turned go back on it. As I said you shouldn't fall bellow 102-104 MPH. I used to have the grip problem too..It's really all in the entry and throttle.

I can take a video of my run, if that would help you. Other than that, not much I can do.
Also I use an Automatic, So I can't help you gear-wise.

And for me its all about gear control. Yeah, I have been fighting with the ghost (the guy in 1st right now). 6 is a tricky corner, I only hit it with that good feel once in a while. The gap is really made between him and I between turns 2 and 4... By then, Im shot.

I know my targets are off... I feel that but every time I move my targets I redlap... but the problem is you move 1 target and all the others change because of it (if that makes any sense at all)

Turn 1 I have down. Also the last turn I have down (though in reality, that pic depicts it as 1 turn and it really is 2 different ones.)


EDIT - Yeah, last lap I tried to watch the speed in turn 6... Im at around 98... Maybe its time to watch a replay and stop chasing a ghost I cant catch...

 

[ugabugaz]

And for me its all about gear control. Yeah, I have been fighting with the ghost (the guy in 1st right now). 6 is a tricky corner, I only hit it with that good feel once in a while. The gap is really made between him and I between turns 2 and 4... By then, Im shot.

I know my targets are off... I feel that but every time I move my targets I redlap... but the problem is you move 1 target and all the others change because of it (if that makes any sense at all)

Turn 1 I have down. Also the last turn I have down (though in reality, that pic depicts it as 1 turn and it really is 2 different ones.)


EDIT - Yeah, last lap I tried to watch the speed in turn 6... Im at around 98... Maybe its time to watch a replay and stop chasing a ghost I cant catch...

98 MPH is roughly what I do when I mess up the corner.. Definitely watch a replay a couple of times. Helps a lot, or at least it did for me.

 

[Ronald6]

Remember: draw your driving line from the last corner to the first corner.

 

[ryanerb]

Well, I dont know if anyone is interested but I have a room open now for Eiger with the settings in the TT (345 HP, Modern Rally, and on Eiger Short)

Room #
1472 - 6399 - 8880 - 6891 - 5692

 

[chriz00]

I am enjoying the kart space TT more so than the Eiger TT lol

I finally got into the 39's with a 0:39.839...I know I get a low 39.8 but damn you turismo_lester !!! with your 38.792

BTW anyone willing to share a Gixxer that's 350pp? They seem to be popular at the top and probably much quicker than the lotus.

 

[Ronald6]

BTW anyone willing to share a Gixxer that's 350pp? They seem to be popular at the top and probably much quicker than the lotus.

I'm currently dirtying up my GSX using my bobs while I'm at work. Should be ready by tomorrow. If anyone wants it just add me:Ronald657

(My message box is now empty.)

 

[BWX]

Early this morning managed a 40.6xx good for 174th (at the time) in the 111R.

 

[ugabugaz]

Shaved a bit more time in a quick midnight session..Down to 1:04.370 in a run that can only be described as slow as compared to my previous one. I'll try and get in the 4.100's tomorrow.

I see you creepin' down the leaderboards jpro01 - Good job on the new time.

 

[Keshian]

Hi guys,

I'm running the Eiger TT in a Suzuki Sx4, I'm looking for some tuning tips. Can anyone point me in the right direction :-) I've got my time down to 1:07.3xx but I'm convinced there is more time to be had.

 

[sacton3]

I did both the TT with a very slightly modified SX4, and the Kart track with a 500 that ive been working on.

Anyone else find these a bit easy?

 

[sacton3]

Hi guys,

I'm running the Eiger TT in a Suzuki Sx4, I'm looking for some tuning tips. Can anyone point me in the right direction :-) I've got my time down to 1:07.3xx but I'm convinced there is more time to be had.

First stage turbo, you may have to turn the power down a bit. Make sure your weight is 50/50, if not use the ballast to correct and make sure your ACD is set a 45/55 (That'w what I used anyways).

Since Eiger is a short track, you can set the transmission to a lower top speed, which paired with the First Stage Turbo, should be a little yellow rocket out of corners.

I recommend manual transmission also, so you can short shift; the higher RPM range it tends to lose power. Just the short shift alone may buy you the 3/10ths you need.

 

[JohnBM01]

After landing a 1:11.833 in a Subaru Impreza in my last tour around Eiger Nordwand Short Track, I tried again. This time- with my Mitsubishi Lancer Super Rally Car. The time went from a 1:11.833 in my Subaru to a 1:09.053 in Mitsubishi. So I joined the "70 Seconds or Less" club with my time. I don't go for overwhelming speed or anything, so I was pretty happy with my time. All the while, I felt like I wanted to push my Mitsubishi harder and harder. Eiger Nordwand Short Track can be a tough place to push harder than you normally would. It was a good time improvement compared to my previous run in the other car.

Now, I'll explain myself for the Kart Space one. I felt like having a competent rear-wheel drive car would make a great difference going around a compact course like Kart Space I. I wanted to have decent handling in a peppy car within 350PP. So I chose my 1991 Mazda Miata (Premium). I am actually tempting to use my Mazda AZ-1 next. I will have to tune it up to make the most of this car's capabilities. I will also see if my Race Modified Suzuki Cappuccino will make a difference as well (after adding 150 lbs. of ballast).


[UPDATE 1] New best time at Kart Space I! I pulled a 45.187 in my 1995 Race-Modified Suzuki Cappuccino. I went with Comfort Softs and gave the car 125 kg of ballast. There are some parts of Kart Space where you don't really need to brake if you aren't in a kart. I tried to drive this course hard. Sadly, this track is too easy to have your time get invalidated if you exploit the edges too much. I hated when my times went foul just because one or two tires went too deep into corners.

[UPDATE 2] Another new best- 45.094 in my AZ-1 with 24 kg of ballast! The AZ-1 can be very unstable around Kart Space I. Still, I managed to lay down a sick lap time with a good Kei car. I just think the course is more fun with karts and kei cars than any larger cars. That's even though some of the cars used in the top ranks are much more powerful cars.

 

[LMP787B]

Finally managed to drop 0.5 off my best on kart space from 41.11 to a 40.59, down to 209th at the moment, my best ever result so far. Would anybody be willing to lend me their gsx later on today or tomorrow for half an hour?

 

[Peasantslayer]

Finally managed to drop 0.5 off my best on kart space from 41.11 to a 40.59, down to 209th at the moment, my best ever result so far. Would anybody be willing to lend me their gsx later on today or tomorrow for half an hour?

Got up to 9th with turismo-lester's gsxr ask him if you can use it. Fastest valid 1st sector about 2 tenths off 1st, fastest valid 2nd sector about a tenth quicker than 1st and fastest 3rd sector about equal with 1st so I still have a little bit to come.

EDIT: up to 7th with a 39.308 but I dont know if its gonna count because I tried to delete someone from my block list whilst at the track and I seem to have an infinite loading screen.

 

[LMP787B]

Got up to 9th with turismo-lester's gsxr ask him if you can use it. Fastest valid 1st sector about 2 tenths off 1st, fastest valid 2nd sector about a tenth quicker than 1st and fastest 3rd sector about equal with 1st so I still have a little bit to come.

Well your doing well I watched your 39.3 replay and it was very quick, i've pushed the elise to the limit I can find any more time. Need to try the gsx to improve any more ...

 

[Lorenzo1201]

hallo friends!
Id like to try a gsx on cart space (now I use elise with 40.6 time). I've one new with no component installed, non change oil or other thinks. Car new have 353 pp. I've done 2000 km in b-spec with no change oil (now it look like black petrol) and now car has 357 pp (more then one with oil new). Someone has used gsx? If yes, how many km should I take to drain the oil and decrease the pp?